John Ryan's

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Type
Reel
Structure
AB
Mode
A Dorian
Earliest Recording
~1981

About the Tune

"John Ryan's" is a widely played tune in traditional Irish music. It's often played at the end of a set of polkas.

What it's Called:

The tune has many names, including:

  • "John Ryan’s" (most common)
  • “Ryan’s”
  • "The Keadue Polka"
  • “Sean Ryan’s Polka”
  • "Dum Dum"
  • “Dum-Dum Diddle-Liddle”
  • “Forty Pound Float” (especially in Australia and New Zealand)
  • "Irish Saffron" (reportedly used in a military band performance)

It appeared in a 1979 publication called "Begged Borrowed and Stolen" under the title “Forty Pound Float,” possibly due to confusion with a different tune.

Who is John Ryan?

It's unclear exactly who John Ryan was. One possibility is a musician from Mallow, County Cork, who played the fiddle.

How it's Played:

  • Many musicians play a short, humorous solo at the beginning of the tune.
  • Guitarists often play a characteristic "Dang Dang" chord progression on the first, third, and fifth bars.
  • Some sessions include a playful variation where different people take turns improvising on the tune.
  • Sometimes it is played responsorially, with a soloist “calling” a phrase and the group “answering.”

Where You Might Hear It:

  • Titanic films
  • Gerry McFadden’s piping albums
  • The children’s television show *Bluey*
  • Renaissance fairs (as part of a set with "Peg Ryan")
  • Queen Elizabeth’s jubilee parade

Musical Variations:

There are many recorded versions of the tune, with some differing in the second half.

Online Resources:

You can find recordings and sheet music online at sites like TheSession.org and on YouTube.